How "wait for full load" affects line timings – Train Fever /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/feed/ Wed, 30 Apr 2025 12:44:47 +0000 https://bbpress.org/?v=2.6.13 en-US /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5495 <![CDATA[How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5495 Sun, 07 Sep 2014 07:39:30 +0000 Morat In case anyone was curious, I was worried that setting a line to ‘wait for full load’ would affect the line timings due to trains not running frequently. To test this I set up a sandbox with two, two-track stations connected up with identical length tracks. One track had a line set to load if available, the other was set to wait for full load (all) on one station.

Findings:

  1. As soon as you assign a train to a line the game calculates the line frequency based entirely on the line path. Station loading settings do not affect this calculation (3 minutes was set for both lines with one train).
  2. Adding an additional train reduced the frequency, even on the line where neither train was moving due to waiting for a load.
  3. When trains are moving the game seems to periodically recalculate the actual frequency based on actual running time. This meant that the frequency of the load if available line reduced slightly from 3 minutes to 146 seconds.

I suspect that the frequency logic is something like:

  1. Calculate the base frequency of the line based on path (and perhaps fastest vehicle currently available? I couldn’t test this as I’m stuck in 1850).
  2. When a loco is assigned to the line recalculate the base frequency
  3. Periodically, calculate the actual frequency of trains running on the line. If it’s lower than the base frequency use it, otherwise use the base.

tl;dr Setting trains to wait for full load won’t stop them being used, but the line frequency might not be quite as fast as it can get on a line where they’re load if available.

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5498 <![CDATA[Reply To: How does "wait for full load" affect line usage?]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5498 Sun, 07 Sep 2014 07:58:44 +0000 Decrayer I use waiting for full load only on freight lines. Flor passengers, I think it is necessary to deliver a shorter cycle and therefore I never use waiting on passenger lines.

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5503 <![CDATA[Reply To: How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5503 Sun, 07 Sep 2014 08:13:05 +0000 gutterball I like the Simutrans method where you can set variable loads and waiting times

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5633 <![CDATA[Reply To: How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5633 Sun, 07 Sep 2014 13:50:19 +0000 Decrayer Yes, a Feature that would allow us to say to wait for full but max x minutes like in rollercoaster tycoon would be cool.

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5643 <![CDATA[Reply To: How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-5643 Sun, 07 Sep 2014 14:10:31 +0000 Mansen Passengers care more about frequency of transport than the volume (as you’d expect – Nobody cares if 40 people can get on the same train. The individual wants to get to their destination as fast as possible.

Industry is less sensitive – Provided you stay within the twenty minute time window, they’ll accept high frequency or high volume all the same.

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7512 <![CDATA[Reply To: How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7512 Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:10:37 +0000 SirSac would love to see a rollercoaster tycoon style options for this: certain set percentages full with a min and max wait times.

 
Would be perfect.

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7552 <![CDATA[Reply To: How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7552 Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:30:41 +0000 Yeol The “waiting for full load” has for the moment no real use. The generated traffic jams hinder the drop-off trucks and other traffic on the main road. Only in very specific cases “waiting for full load” is usefull (a longer approaching lane to hold the waiting trucks, only at raw source industries, with trains on dedicated lines,…).When the developers add the possibility that cars can overtake, the use of alternate platforms (alternate paths), dedicated platforms for drop-off an pick-up (waypoints), etc… I don’t see a real use for waiting for full load. It causes too much chaos and jams.

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7823 <![CDATA[Reply To: How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7823 Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:31:16 +0000 Luewen The problem with load full on routes with more than 2 trains going on will be that they clog the tracks especially if there is more trains on a route than there are available platforms to stop.

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7828 <![CDATA[Reply To: How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7828 Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:56:21 +0000 mackintosh Where is this notion of industry being less sensitive coming from? Assuming you have the requisite demand, put one train on a goods route, then put another, then another and then another and see what happens to production output.

]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7834 <![CDATA[Reply To: How "wait for full load" affects line timings]]> /forums/topic/how-does-wait-for-full-load-affect-line-usage/#post-7834 Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:26:23 +0000 bencze It happened to me several times that full load resulted in products being carried by people on foot instead. I never found a good way to use it, sadly.

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